Win, maybe my memory is not serving me well enough, but I know that in Cinci he finished the year pretty invisible. Some of that was due to injury. And certainly all of the talk about what a circus he and Chad would be never materialized. But perhaps more to the point, if I were a GM right now, neither did any hoped-for increase in production. Johnson had one of his weaker seasons, and overall the offense was in the bottom third. So right now, if I were a GM--in NE or anywhere--I'd be asking simply whether I would be better off spending money on a guy who is 40, three years gone from football and who was good but nothing special that three years before, and who has a history of emotional issues or on some UFA or draft pick? TO has no future. He's 40. I would be looking for some 25-year-old diamond in the rough. I'd comb Practice Squad rosters. And here's the other thing, even if he were a model citizen, a guy you would call a real pro, the media would not let him (and therefore the team) alone. It would be a circus anyway. Maybe that isn't fair, but it's a reality a GM would have to take into account. Moss was never as big a headache as TO was for anyone. Yes, he caused some problems. And Moss dogged it in places when he was not happy. But Randy was never in TO's league as far as locker room cancers go. And I don't agree with you that TO's skills are better now than Moss's this past year. TO didn't really do much in the minors. And think of it this way: if you knew nothing about his NFL production, and if you did not know his age, would you have gone to one of those games and said, "Wow, some NFL team ought to give that guy a look!" My guess is no. I'm not thinking in anti-TO terms (and I really do hope the guy can get his life turned around). I'm trying to think in purely football terms.